The kind of spoiler that makes me want to puke.
Perhaps my Canadian friends can shed some light, as Chuck vs. the Ex is apparently airing there tonight while we in the US go hungry for our Chuck fix. Kristin Dos Santos just dropped a bomb that has me wondering if it’s even worth continuing to watch, because if this trend continues, the show will become virtually unwatchable for me, as a woman with (at least) a shred of self-respect.
I really hope this is meant in jest. Kristin, who is rarely wrong about these things, if ever, says that Sarah and Jill (Chuck’s ex) get into a pillow fight. A PILLOW FIGHT.
Pardon my language for a moment, because I try to keep this blog clean for the most part, but ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! I don’t even have the WORDS right now for how furious and insulted I feel.
May I just reiterate, on the off-chance that Josh Schwartz pays this little blog another visit, that exploiting women is NOT the way to increase your female viewers?
Maybe not your straight female audience, but I for one, would pay to see Jordana Brewster and Sara Lancaster have a pillow fight. I actually think there should be an episode requiring Sara L to be in a bikini for some reason.
(I can take or leave Yvonne S. Too skinny and average-looking for me. No offense.)
Not just straight girls watch Chuck!
@Amy Thank you for that generalization, Amy. I’m actually not straight, either. I still think it’s disgusting.
Erm… As a Canadian I can’t find any channel that’s showing our favorite tv show. HELP!!!!
Also, I’m remaining neutral on the pillow fight bit until I actually see it, but I agree with the fact that there is quite a bit of exploitation of the female gender in this tv show that makes me uncomfortable at times.
@techie - I too will wait to see the episode before becoming enraged. But if it is true, it will be yet another example of the sad pornoish quality of female characterization on that show. I blame McG. Because he sucks.
@Techie Zachary-Levi.com was reporting that it was showing on CityTV (which that link confirms) but I’m getting reports from all over that it was incorrect information, because nobody’s seen it.
It’s just getting ridiculous. When I want to see half-naked women, or coeds having pillow fights for that matter, I know where to find them. (The internet is for porn.) Chuck, however, is the only source for its brand of dramedy, and a great show is becoming obscured by soft-core fantasies.
It is hard to balance my strong feminism with the fact that I am susceptible to objectification.
I think I’ve been more focused on it on Disney Channel and Nickelodean programming that my girls watch. I’m always railing against it but I let it slide more on what I watch. (Which is really only Chuck and How I Met Your Mother lately)
I hadn’t noticed it on Chuck, possibly because I really pay the most attention to Chuck and Casey (I adore Adam Baldwin in everything) Now that I look back on it, it would be awesome to see Sarah is some normal clothes, jeans and a t-shirt.
Maybe we need Joss Whedon to come in and write some of the female roles for it.
Thanks for making me ’see’ it again. (seriously, thanks.)
Amy
@Amy: It’s okay. We have all been blinded to what is being shoved down our throats because it is what is normal for us to see. It’s easier to see and get angry at the objectification of little girls because they’re little girls so it kind of glares at us. But when every time you leave the house, there is yet another billboard with a half-naked woman selling perfume, or every magazine you open has multitudes of ads with the same, and practically every female character on TV is more worried about how she looks and whether or not she’ll “get the guy” than about paying bills or moving ahead in her job, or being a decent parent, or the myriad of other concerns women have, then it’s easy to forget what we’re bombarded with is insulting and sexist.
What is important is not being afraid to speak out now that you do see it, even when other women are telling you you’re wrong.
Oh, also (I feel the need to add because I sometimes never STFU), we have also been programmed to see women who can beat people up as strong feminist icons, when really that isn’t the case. It is refreshing, yes, to see women not needing to be rescued all the time and able to take care of themselves, but it doesn’t negate the sexual objectification that still occurs just because she carries a gun and knows how to use it.
What if this scene is a sort of fantasy/dream that Chuck is having? If that is the case, then I won’t mind the scene at all because I could really see Chuck having a fantasy such as that.
@Kel For me, having it be a fantasy would actually be worse. They make me feel creepy enough for being considered a nerd — as a virtual female Chuck, sans Intersect — without making his fantasies more creeptastic. I don’t like being made to feel like a skeeve because I’m a geek.